Hi all,

I’m seeing a lot of hate for capitalism here, and I’m wondering why that is and what the rationale behind it is. I’m pretty pro-capitalism myself, so I want to see the logic on the other side of the fence.

If this isn’t the right forum for a political/economic discussion-- I’m happy to take this somewhere else.

Cheers!

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    under the view of capitalism

    But what does this even mean? Aren’t you saying capitalism has no view? So how can it basis for internal evaluation? Aren’t moral judgments restricted to actors like humans? Doesn’t this framework essentially rob the word ‘evil’ of any meaning, since nothing is capable of it?

    Slavery in capitalism isn’t evil

    That doesn’t make sense by your own arguments. Instead, it is the capitalist that doesn’t see slavery as evil. While the slave and I still do. Capitalism is not capable of conferring this type of judgment, right?

    Earlier you said:

    Capitalism isn’t evil.

    This isn’t evil or greedy. It is just people playing by the rules of the system.

    People create capitalism. It may not be evil itself in that it has no agency, but if they act evil to conform to the system that they choose to maintain, then they are responsible for knowingly setting themselves up to have to commit evil. Nothing about capitalism’s non-agency absolves actors from their implementation with and interaction with the system.

    So the current logic I’m reading now appears to be:

    Humans make capitalism -> Humans make capitalism and then live under it -> Humans make capitalism with the understanding that doing so will encourage them to be evil in order to live under it -> Humans are responsible for capitalism which is not itself responsible for the evil actions that it makes people commit, and (here is the leap / circular point) the lack of capitalism’s responsibility somehow breaks the chain of causality which separates the humans from responsibility for the consequences of their informed actions.

    Obviously agency and cause-and-effect don’t work like this, though. Causality doesn’t randomly break whenever our egos feel the need to be consoled.