• HeartyBeast@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    When Voyager was first shown on TV, a mate from work used to come around every week and we’d have a beer and watch it.

    The episode with Neelix’s cheese ended that tradition

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      Understandable but would it shock you to know that it’s my fav star trek? But ya it unfortunately has some weak episodes, especially in the beginning.

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        It’s my favourite as well. My parents watched TNG and DS9 when I was a kid, but Voyager was the first Trek that I went out of my way myself to watch. Kathryn Janeway is high on my list of personal (albeit fictional) heroes.

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        VOY is the most scientifically illiterate of all Trek series. They tried to sound at least as “sciency” as TNG, but:

        • They spent half a season searching ores on planets while mentioning a gas
        • They invented the “iso-” pseudo prefix to hide they didn’t understand the metric system (in a prior episode they were alarmed by a cosmic event generating as little pressure as 10 atmospheres).
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        I’ve subsequently seem other episodes - and yes, it’s solid. It’s just that one episode, where we looked at each other and went ‘nahh’

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      Just imagine what the crew had to go through… Kinda surprising that Tuvix didn’t have any support since splitting him up would mean that Neelix is back.

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      Neelix was awful, and probably made worse because I wanted to like him from the start.

      Without getting into Kes - which compounded the Neelix problem for me - I started to hate him less in the last few seasons when he went all dark sad clown. I was still viscerally annoyed, but he turned into almost a Michael Scott type character. He was horrible, but you could see the the pain that made him that way.

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          I hadn’t even thought about the comparison to Guinan or Quark. The comparison makes Neelix so much worse. Guinan didn’t need a redemption arc . Quark had a good one. Neither of them were annoying.

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            Guinan gained a threatening arc, if anything. The ultra calm, compassionate counselor that scared gods like Q, and could swing a mean rifle when she needed to.

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    State of the art ship, goes to shit because of cheese, smort engineers take days to figure it out… The future!