Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low
Signal. Any restriction can be bypassed
Signal’s devs have been pretty good about offering proxies to people in oppressive nations like Iran and Egypt in the past.
And now we can add Britain to that list.
Soo… this whole thing is about the eu not the uk. Which are (now) different things. The uk dropped their dumb idea with a “when this is technically possible” restriction, which it won’t be because maths isn’t changing anytime soon.
The eu thing is different and technically possible.
At least the UK is willing to acknowledge they want something impossible, haha. In the US they’d just say “do it, math be damned”.
“The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.” ~ Malcolm Turnbul, former Australian PM.
Turnbul has done less study on the matter than king Cnut.
Thanks, apparently I was struggling to read a two letter acronym…
AFAIK in Iran, the issue is that the real local phone numbers could not be accepted for registration due to sanctions, so it only ever worked for existing accounts. Another problem of such a system.
Yeah, Signal should work on its reliance over phone
I don’t think Signal will ever give up phone numbers as identifiers, for better or for worse… The “for better” helps prevent spam and makes contact discovery easier, but the “for worse” can easily place a pretty heavy burden on users to own a phone number.
I hope we don’t get to Iranian conditions in the UK, but if we do, I imagine there would be a lot more press about how they handled the “first world” country… At that point, switching to a different platform would probably be better…
Not just a phone number, but a non-sanctioned phone number.
It’s a feature that keeps being said to be “almost ready”, but phone number for registration will continue to be required from what I understand. What they were working on was the ability to have usernames to connect to strangers and other people without the need to share the phone number.
Yeah, which has taken a frustratingly long time to implement. They’ve been working on it unofficially since 2018 and officially since 2019, and fingers crossed will be getting it sometime in 2024. They struggled for a while with message editing as well, finally rolling it out just recently… Presumably, waiting for the old clients to expire. (That’s why they stop functioning after a while.)
They could. If they wanted to. But they don’t want to. They could charge a little bit of money to initiate contact with somebody if you don’t have your phone number registered. To keep the spam down. They already have their own mobile coin, they could just ask initial contacts to send a penny for that contact. Something not too intrusive. They could do that, if they want to, but they don’t want to.