• beefpeach@infosec.pub
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    1 year ago

    Even though Windows is very user-friendly. I think Windows 11 might be my last. The amount of anti-privacy that’s implemented and what I have to do just so it doesn’t constantly phone back home is kind of ridiculous.

    Off to pick my flavor of Linux.

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      I find it strange that people call it user-friendly, despite it doing a lot of things hostile to the user.

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        Because user-friendly means that even a tech-noob can easily set it up and use it right away without much researching.

        • If an OS requires ANY AMOUNT of command line, you have lost about half the population.

        • If an OS asks any remotely difficult question with techno lingo, you have lost an other quarter.

        • If an OS doesn’t work out of the box the way it should (like all their hardware functioning including audio), you have lost all the other not technology inclined people.

        Windows is setup that it requires none of that. It may do something that you find horrific, but most people do not care as long as it works.

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          Windows devices are set up like that.

          If you give someone a blank hard drive and Windows install media, they need to to all of those things.

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            Have you installed Windows 10 or 11 lately?

            The most difficult part are the partitions, but even that is done mostly automatically and doesn’t allow you to continue if your setup wouldn’t work.

            It comes with decent default drivers for most generic hardware, and automatically installs drivers for more exotic hardware if it supports Windows Updates.

            And it most definitely does not require a single command line.

            Maybe some technical jargon, but even that you can just skip by pressing next and it won’t fuck up anything.

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              Yes, it required a command line to perform disk partitioning and even a basic pre-erase.

              It also asked about 20 more questions than necessary, and I had to answer “no” to each and every one of them.

              Where Linux asks for a username, Windows insisted multiple time that I had to create an account. The only workaround was to physically unplug the Ethernet cable.

              There’s also a step where you need to lie about your regional settings to avoid getting plastered with preinstalled trash.

              If you blindly click “next” through a Windows install, you will get the most bloated, horrible, invasive experience possible.

              There Windows installer is an absolute fucking minefield.

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          If an OS requires ANY AMOUNT of command line, you have lost about half the population.

          Half? It’s way more than half.

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        Just more in the neighborhood of being used or understanding something because it has been given to them from a very young age on. So getting familiar and used to it very young age on makes it “friendly” even though it is more “familiarity”.

        Linux is always going to be really awkward at first but over the course of time you learn and shy away and develop your own kinda workflow and that’s the beauty of it in my opinion.

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        I would say I know the basics of Linux due to owning a Pi and messing around with it time-to-time but no where near experienced.

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          TL; DR: From personal experience as a Raspberry Pi tinkerer and Windows evacuee, I recommend Linux Mint.

          Raspberry Pi OS is essentially Debian compiled for ARM with the LXDE desktop. They used to use LXDE, and it is my understanding they forked LXDE to make their “Pixel” desktop. Being Debian, it uses the APT package manager with .deb packages.

          Linux Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, which itself is a fork of Debian. It uses the APT package manager and .deb packages. The exact same commands to install, say, LibreOffice on a Raspberry Pi can be used to install it on Linux Mint.

          Cinnamon is the flagship desktop, and I think is a reasonable answer to “What if Microsoft had kept developing the Windows 7 desktop instead of trying to make a tablet OS?” I chose Cinnamon pretty immediately because it felt more like the Windows I had grown up with than Windows 8.1 did.

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              There is: Linux Mint Debian Edition. There are a few things you’re missing in LMDE than in the standard Ubuntu-based version though, such as the driver manager and support for PPAs. The latter of which has declined in usefulness with the rise of Flatpaks, I haven’t installed from a PPA in years now.

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            and Ubuntu

            No. It’s way too complicated to circumvent Canonical’s attempts at vendor lock-in. One might just as well pick a more open distribution from the beginning.

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              Not too hard, especially if you plan on running the same software on your new distro. Basically, all of the settings are in your home directory (/home/[username]/), so you could just copy everything from your home directory and that’s that.

              Not only that, but you could also set up your home dir to be on another partition or drive. Basically, you don’t have to copy anything if you set up your distro like this. You just point the new distro to your former home directory, this is home now, and it’ll just use all of the settings from there. Sure, some settings and files are distro specific, but you can manually delete those if you want to free up a few MB of space.

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      If only the Xbox controller wouldn’t randomly disconnect on Linux. No, i bought it because i read it works well here.

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        This is my biggest downfall with Linux, lack of integration with gaming but I’ll learn to leave without it, I guess.

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          Sounds like bait but I’ll bite.

          Most singleplayer titles work perfectly fine under Linux. Majority of my steam library runs with compatibility toggled in steam.

          I’ve got a Switch Pro controller, no issues via Bluetooth or Cable connection. Gives me battery readouts via Dunst

          Running Wayland with an NVIDIA GPU in both my systems.

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          I heard some recent steam thing made it pretty great now? Or was that just marketing talking?

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            It’s been for a few years, the only problem is with some multiplayers games (and it’s quite a easy and complex question)

            RPGMaker games are hit or miss

            Overall, if its on steam and it’s not a MP game chances are it will work out of the box