Just a thought experiment, let’s say the earth is flat, looks like many professionals would know, including
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Pilots/ATC/sea captain
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Land surveyor and civil engineers
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Astronomers and Geologists, at least the one dealing with experimental data
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Militaries, at least radar operator and artillery
Just these categories are already a lot of persons, I assume I miss a lot of others. So how many person does it make in total ? 10 % of the population ?
More than just people. Some form of greater intelligence has to be at work since anyone can run a simple experiment to prove it’s round.
The ending of the Netflix documentary where the flat earthers prove the earth is round is hysterical.
What’s the documentary called?
Stealing this from OP, it’s called “Behind the Curve” and it is hilarious.
They do an experiment with a navigation unit from an airliner and it consistently proves them wrong too.
Is that the one where they use the lighted poles at night and a board with a hole in it to prove the earth is flat? In that one they seemed a bit baffled and said they’d need to do the experiment again. To their credit, when they ran it again with the same results, they said they’d need to reevaluate their beliefs.
during the credits the guy was making excuses for why it failed, did he come out later saying he was wrong?
In the one I saw, he was definitely contemplating his beliefs after the second failed test. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t justify and explain away the results later. It is very difficult for people to change core beliefs, even to the point of being painful for some people. In the case of this guy, idk what he eventually decided on, because the show didn’t show it.
It wasn’t the main guy but one of the guys on site doing the pole experiment. I recall him saying “that’s interesting” after confirming the test worked, proving the curvature. It sounded like he was questioning his beliefs, but during the credits he’s on a podcast or radio show making some bs up about how the test was wrong.
I must have shut it off before then. That’s too bad. I kind of wondered if he would later explain it away. What a dummy.
That is unironically part of it. When people do experiments that show the earth is round they get told to pray and do it again. This suggests that their rationale is that the devil is tricking you into seeing bad results and if you pray hard enough you will eventually see five lights.
Awesome reference.
What is it a reference of?
One of the best Star Trek episodes ever: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_of_Command_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)
Even math is involved? Dang this thing goes further than I thought.
This is a bit extreme, but maintaining a conspiracy with lots of “insiders” isn’t impossible. Just think of how many people worked on the Manhattan project.
First you compartmentalize, so that only a core few know the whole picture. Then you threaten everyone involved with serious jail time for informing. (This is why we know Bob Lazar is full of shit, where he telling the truth, he’d be in prison)
It’s true that secrets can’t be kept forever, but they can be kept for a while.
The flaw in flat earth is not the number of conspirators, but the purpose of the conspiracy. It all falls apart when we ask why the government wants to keep flat earth from the public.
To sell more globes, obviously.
But if the flat earth goes on, what can be assumed to be, infinitely past the ice wall (since no one really gives an answer for what’s past there), think of how big maps would be! They would have to sell giant maps and make a fortune.
Flat earth is just a variation on the “It’s the Jews!” bullshit that’s existed forever. See Folding Ideas youtube video for details.
They’re protecting the turtles. If people like Bezos knew that it’s turtles all the way down, they’d certainly harvest the turtle shells to make fancy hair combs. That would spell the end of the earth.
the government can’t afford to let the plebs know they live on a giant pizza. that would destabilize everything!
Since flat earth nonsense is just rebranded creationism, the only being who really needs to be part of the conspiracy is satan.
Then anyone who tells you that the earth is round is either deceived by satan, or is a satan worshiper.
This makes it super easy to dismiss anything that would hint at reality, like ships sailing over the horizon.
Don’t forget everyone who works on the moon
Checking in during moon lunch, thank you for making me feel seen.
What time do you take moon lunch?
I dunno about moon lunch, but I can tell you the best time to go to a dentist.
The correct answer is ‘moon’ obviously
2:30
(Tooth hurty)
I told my dentist this joke and they adjusted all their appointment times by half an hour just so they could have a 2:30 appointment every day.
Damn, on a Sunday evening? That’s wild
And the ISS.
No, that one is fake.
Pssh. You still believe in the moon?
Of course the moon is real, I visited in Minecraft!
Mined some cheese on it as well.
Anyone who lives near the sea an can see ships disappear behind the horizon.
I was going to add other groups that would have to be in on it, but it is only required that you are all not real.
I am real. My family is real. But outside maybe 30 miles from my house, no one else needs to be real.
Sure, I can and have driven farther, but the trackers alert the actors. This has the advantage of the Earth’s population can be just a few hundred thousand total.
Why? Clearly, I am the last truly important person, for reasons that are not yet clear.
So … 50,000 people are in on it at least. And they are… 40%+ of the Earth’s population.
Edit: to finish the thought. OP’s 10% puts those in on it at 800 million people. My 50 thousand is a much smaller number.
Literally everyone with eyes and a functioning brain who has ever charted the stars, flown in a plane, or looked out to sea. I’d wagers that’s far more than 10%.
It’s actually just me. I mind control everyone else. It’s easier if I have some “nutjobs” as an opposition who know the real truth. And more fun for me.
There are no conspiracists on the tail side, only on the heads side I am told, because they fell off
10 % of the population ?
More or less… good estimate BTW.
In any case, a lot of people… way too many to cover up a lie that big.
Anybody who has ever flown far enough Eastwards or Westwards and saw how the time of day changed either much faster or slower than the time their clock said it was.
(Which can’t be mathematically explained for a flat Earth but is a pretty simple effect to explain with a round Earth)
Forget that. It’s even simpler. Phone someone in a different time zone around sunset. If they say the sun isn’t setting where they are, either the earth is a sphere, or they’re lying and part of the conspiracy.
If I understand correctly they have some kind of explanation where the sun works like a spotlight or something. But it also requires light to curve in weird ways to make any damn sense, soooo…
Yeah, light curving is much more logical than the earth curving.
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I’ve always wondered how the Soviet Union and the Cold War fit into the NASA conspiracy. Did Korolev receive paycheks from across the ocean to fake Gagarin’s spaceflight too?
You missed the Memo, both countries were controlled by Reptilians who live inside the hollow earth. Have you ever see Stalin and Reagan in the same room ? It’s because it’s the same person
If the lizard people live in a hollow Earth, aren’t they afraid to fall out of the bottom?
Quit with your thinking
