this is clearly not true, Portal literally just got a huge fangame with a Steam release. the issue is entirely that it uses Nintendo stuff and the guy even says as much
This is just a corporate passing of the buck. There’s no reason to believe a third party infringing upon the properties of two parties would give the latter parties any ability or risk of going after one another.
This project was not on steam and as such was not distributed by nor associated with Valve in any way beyond infringement of IP and use of their assets. Let’s not give Valve a pass just because they can lazily and baselessly say “um nintendo!” about it.
Let’s not give Valve a pass just because they can lazily and baselessly say “um nintendo!” about it.
okay but this was not your initial argument–this is an entirely separate issue from it, actually. your argument was “Valve about to become as litigious as Nintendo with IP they’ve let rot.” and that is demonstrably false or they wouldn’t have let Portal Revolution release. if they were going to be litigious about the Portal IP, why would they DMCA Portal64 but not Revolution?
to me, this is clearly an example of incorrectly getting mad about something and then shifting the goalposts to not have to take the L.
and that is demonstrably false or they wouldn’t have let Portal Revolution release. if they were going to be litigious about the Portal IP, why would they DMCA Portal64 but not Revolution?
Revolution is a mod for Portal 2 and requires the purchase of Portal 2 to play. Anyone who wants to play it has already given money to valve, or needs to. Revolution Is great for Valve, they do basically nothing and get they more sales of Portal 2. Portal64 does nothing for Valve.
There is a very clear incentive for Valve to not only allow but boost Revolution.
While Valve permits Revolution, a game that benefits the company, it does not imply they would also permit Portal64, a game that lacks benefits for Valve.
Portal64 required you to have access to one file from portal 1, portal_pak_000.vpk. It’s trivial to get that file. Either via google, or purchasing Portal, extracting the file, then getting a refund.
Revolution requires a continuously working copy of Portal 2.
It’s significantly easier for the general population to play Portal64 without giving money to Valve than Revolution.
this is clearly not true, Portal literally just got a huge fangame with a Steam release. the issue is entirely that it uses Nintendo stuff and the guy even says as much
This is just a corporate passing of the buck. There’s no reason to believe a third party infringing upon the properties of two parties would give the latter parties any ability or risk of going after one another.
This project was not on steam and as such was not distributed by nor associated with Valve in any way beyond infringement of IP and use of their assets. Let’s not give Valve a pass just because they can lazily and baselessly say “um nintendo!” about it.
okay but this was not your initial argument–this is an entirely separate issue from it, actually. your argument was “Valve about to become as litigious as Nintendo with IP they’ve let rot.” and that is demonstrably false or they wouldn’t have let Portal Revolution release. if they were going to be litigious about the Portal IP, why would they DMCA Portal64 but not Revolution?
to me, this is clearly an example of incorrectly getting mad about something and then shifting the goalposts to not have to take the L.
Revolution is a mod for Portal 2 and requires the purchase of Portal 2 to play. Anyone who wants to play it has already given money to valve, or needs to. Revolution Is great for Valve, they do basically nothing and get they more sales of Portal 2. Portal64 does nothing for Valve.
There is a very clear incentive for Valve to not only allow but boost Revolution.
While Valve permits Revolution, a game that benefits the company, it does not imply they would also permit Portal64, a game that lacks benefits for Valve.
From what I read of the portal64 project it did require owning the original (or having a copy of it) because it patches the assets from the base game.
Portal64 required you to have access to one file from portal 1, portal_pak_000.vpk. It’s trivial to get that file. Either via google, or purchasing Portal, extracting the file, then getting a refund.
Revolution requires a continuously working copy of Portal 2.
It’s significantly easier for the general population to play Portal64 without giving money to Valve than Revolution.