In fairness. i don’t consider myself tech adept, I don’t know how to run a server but I know the importance of privacy and open source. Maybe take it as a good thing that these are being openly talked about here, otherwise the mistakes of reddit will just be repeated. Supporting closed source is a ticking time bomb.

Companies can and will betray you in the name of profit.

On to privacy and security, they ARE important. You have no idea how many people lost money in their banks or have to deal with lengthy lawsuits and procedures just to get their life back after someone impersonated them by stealing their data or ID.

In our area, OTP scams are very rampant. And people constantly fall victim to random calls asking for OTP and other details ; then have their banks withdrawn huge amount of money precisely because the issue of security and privacy aren’t openly being talked about.

Please don’t take it as a negative, but a good thing that these types of things are being discussed.

As a popular quote (paraphrased) says “those who fail to learn the past is doomed to constantly repeat it.”

We don’t want another reddit or twitter.

People are still healing from reddit’s bad decisions. Let them mourn. Let them be angry, let them go through the stages of grief in their own pace.

Ahh now that you mentioned it, now I know why it feels like it doesn’t stand out much. It feels too much like a browser icon. Thanks. This has been nagging at me since I first saw it.

Yeah, not to discredit the work of whoever made it but maybe they could add an option to choose the older icon. Best of both worlds as those who love either can choose.

Ahhh that explains it. Though, forgive the impudence, but I certainly do hope that a flat planet with few circles doesn’t cost 1,000USD.

Maybe as a community effort then. Rather than bought.

Btw, I didn’t knew they were that expensive, for such tiny art, especially for a free non profit software.

I’m thinking maybe the Apollo one was that expensive because it has to incentivize users to subscribe and pay?

Alien civilizations? No. No evidence to support this. But alien life form like bacteria and other organisms? Possible, but still, evidence is scant. It’s difficult for some to accept that we are alone but the lack of evidence suggests a very strong possibility that there’s nothing out there.

Unfortunately, no as far as I know. I personally think this should be the answer rather than Defederation. I’m not sure where to make a feature request for lemmy but I’m not sure why this hasn’t been suggested before.

Changed it just to be safe. Thanks for the reminder :)

Like in apollo, we can select icons. Maybe that can be implemented in the future. :)

Looks more professional but it feels… flatter. And less distinguishable from other apps. But it could just be my eyes.

Woah!!! That’s actually quite fast and unexpected. I guess that answers the question of discoverability. The remaining question is then, how?

And can it be replicated to other posts? It would be amazing if anyone who posts a question in google is given a link to lemmy.

It’s not so much as a deal breaker. The green bubbles means you’re using regular text, hence in some countries, there may be big charges as opposed to blue which is kind of like your regular instant messaging where it’s free as long as you have wifi or data.

It is unfortunate that we have to choose between the two. The idea of FOSS should be not paying and not being the product.

If you look at my original post I mentioned I have proton mail. What I wasn’t aware was if there were free providers as in lemmy.world where it’s free, without subscription, or free from any profitization.

It was discussed heavily in the comments that self hosting only brings problem.

I also conceded that there are no free alternatives apart from hosting your own. That’s why I agreed that protonmail is the next best thing. What I didn’t agree with it is its subscription model and hence its lack of protection against being profit-driven.

That too, I conceded. Someone mentioned tildes.team and I may start looking into that next.

Tldr: I understand that there are email providers available but most are still owned by companies, hence there will still be a time when we have to pay for them, as opposed to say, donation and community-driven.

Thank you for explaining. I grew up on php-based forums and websites. So Rust is pretty new to me. TBH, I haven’t heard of it until Lemmy. :)

I agree, the free option is very serviceable as a backup personal email. Though there will always be a part of me that is skeptical if these free services will disappear one day.

That said, I wouldn’t put everything in one basket. As I recall, their VPN is slow and their cloud storage has no mobile apps. Though that might have changed since I last tried the Proton suite.

Oh wow. I didn’t know this was a thing. Will check this out for sure.

They often provide free services to its members such as email, website/gopher/gemini hosting, coding tools, and many other useful utilities.

This has me really really interested. Thanks for giving more awareness to this :)

To be honest, proton is quite expensive for what it gives. Though this might differ depending on income levels and level of comfort. But their free version is serviceable enough if your email volume isn’t that high.

On your last point, no worries. That is a valid point and yeah, that is exactly what I’m getting at. It’s either use a free service that might disappear or pay a subscription.

I think we can do better, as in the same vein of FOSS where the service is crowd funded and funded by donations.

I know there are paid solutions and that’s fine. But again those run the risk of disappearing or charging more or pivoting business strategies. So many things could go wrong with a paid service.

But with a community initiative, there’s more checks and balances and while not everyone contributes, there’s less likely that a service will become worse over time as demands for profit increases.

Hmmm you have a lot of good points. Decentralizing my accounts would be a good starting point. Will need to track more email accounts but then that’s what a good password manager is for.