@simpleguy @fediverse

Unfortunately it’s unlikely to come soon as mastodon is a while away from implementing groups and are doing it their own incompatible way.

This tag process works though and I’m happy the lemmy devs implemented it.

Spread the word.

@simpleguy @fediverse

I don’t believe so. I’m pretty sure I’ve checked it, but I could be wrong.

It makes sense though as hashtags are a different mechanism from follows and boosts.

You could do a quick test with the test community and the test hashtag.

@electricprism

Yea. The basic idea feels like something that’s kinda been forgotten in the wake of big-social’s long dominance and vanilla-ification of online activity.

I even once asked the dev of a popular mastodon app who was expressing interesting in making a lemmy app too … “why not just add lemmy compatibility to the mastodon app”.

Their response was that they couldn’t see what that would look like or how it would work.

It’s all just text messages … I don’t think this is hard!

@aaaa

A useful lens I find is whether a social media system is good at creating, facilitating and hosting genuine communities.

Alt-social right now is struggling with this I think and, IMO, has plenty of room to grow in this regard.

The difficulty though is that it requires more features in our platforms, some likely non-trivial. That’s a big ask for an open non-profit ecosystem.

An effective means of aggregating multiple parts into a unified view could alleviate this.

@aaaa

Personally, I’m there with you I think. I only use default web-UIs on all fediverse platforms I’ve used, and advocate for that.

But should multi-protocol systems and multi-platform clients become normalised, I think this goes beyond “to app or not to app”. What I’m talking about could likely just be a web-app.

The issue is more around aggregation and creating something “greater than the sum of its parts” out of open alt-social.

@fediverse
Probably not original at all. But I suspect there’s something to framing it around “improving the quality of internet discourse” through the emergent dynamics of a federation … especially in comparison to monolithic big-social.

It also repositions the internet as a broader resource to be used effectively.

And instills independent and contentiously incompatible instances along with widely connected federation as desirable positives for social media and the internet in general.
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@fediverse

A tricky part here is that the community still needs to be followed at least once on your instance for the content to come through. *I think*

So if a community isn’t coming through, I’d recommend these steps:

* Search for the community and follow it like any other user.
* Add it to a specific/bespoke list, then remove that list from home (a setting available on each list). This removes “the firehose” from your home feed.
* Follow the corresponding tag as you would any other

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@mick_collins @Subversivo @fediverse @fediversenews

I’m not familiar enough (or at all) with C#, but AFAICT, it could make an instance more stable, as firefish and misskey have struggled with handling a decent amount of users and C# could be a faster system for the server.

Also, a re-write sometimes is a good thing. And, developers have different preferences for languages, so having a C# project around enables C# devs to more easily contribute to the fedi.

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars

In pretty central … all of them except I think a gas station.

@skullgiver

The point though is that not all platforms had the problem, which means platform diversity would have lessened the significance.

@ada

Interesting! Cool to know that the actual number is higher than 7%.

In the end though how likely are Threads/Meta to *not* have hategroups?

Would it be a good idea to have a more accurate (and therefore higher) number on how many Threads defeds there are?

@poVoq

Perhaps a totally fair critique.

But for me the instance node in the Fedi binds many things together however much their governance aims to be democratic: username, platform, defed policies, moderation, user data (ie posts).

@strife @joeldebruijn

Yea this is the essence of the idea. Strip down the interop requirements as much as possible, relying on existing tech as much as possible, and allow software and norms to solve all the other problems, where, TBF, it seems that software is doing all the heavy lifting in the fediverse anyway, but also has to handle federation and the protocol.

@Aatube @1984 @mindlight @maegul@lemmy.ml

The key idea is that you can have a single unified identity on all the platforms you want. Signing into multiple platforms doesn’t require a new account every time. And cross posting from one platform to another, under your single identity is easy from every platform.

Then leveraging those features (and an open API), a good unifying client will make that easy.

There must be a way of doing that without fatal security issues or decentralisation.

@Aatube @1984 @mindlight @maegul@lemmy.ml

Yea I don’t know the best approach to that. Either a separate server for managing IDs. Or you always a principal server that manages authentication for its platform and others within the trusted “circle”. And then, should the principal server fail, you can switch to another server as your principal. Hubzilla/Streams has some process like that AFAIK.

@joeldebruijn

Yep. Add a good aggregator client (hmmm, Google should make one) and you’re cooking.

@joeldebruijn

Quick attempt at coming up with an alternative.

Something to bear in mind here is it’s my impression that federation creates difficulties that many struggle with. So while it might be over simplified, the scale for me is already weighed with the possibility that we over complication that may need to be remedied.

Also, that big instances (eg mastodon.social) seem to be a natural thing even on the Fedi, there’s clearly perceived value for many there.

@fediverse

All of the shared/single sign on and easy cross posting would probably be trust or allow-list based.

As the platforms would be FOSS, anyone could run their own instance and start their own “circles of trust”. So even with big vs small server friction, there could be a few “gardens” of small and big server networks providing different “spaces” for different purposes … all without having to worry about defederation and the software difficulties of building against the protocol.

@masimatutu

Yea. Generally a good demonstration of how the promise of the fediverse isn’t really there yet.

Lemmy does groups and mastodon does users with neither really understanding the other.

I think there’s more scope for lemmy to cover the user side of social media than mastodon the groups side. Kbin is an example of a continuing effort to do that.

If some keen devs got involved, I’d suspect lemmy could add some good user based functionality.The core devs have recognised it’d be good.

@Bebo @masimatutu

Friendica definitely is one of the underrated fediverse platforms.

Many bounce off of it because it seems a bit slow and its UI is dated. But in terms of the general ideas about what the fediverse can be and the functionality it’s implemented, it’s very interesting and it would be awesome for it to seem more love.