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      You’d be surprised how many people who work for some places don’t actually use their own products. It’s why I think Meta hasn’t done well making VR mass market, if your own engineering and marketing teams aren’t using the product you can’t sell it.

      Apple is unique in marketing just because I feel like their teams do a great job showcasing how this technology fits into your every day life and why it will be better for it.

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    I wonder what he’s doing with it. I’d guess just regular work with a mac? Or sitting on the couch watching videos?

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      They’re selling it as a working aid, and monitor replacement. Like an iPad with infinite display size and resolution. I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t just send emails and have video conferences with it all day.

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        Regarding the monitor: the resolution is the same (apart from you being able to make it bigger, I think there’s still the same space) and there’s only one monitor available and that’s replacing your Mac screen. That seems to be an obvious use case, but in its current form it feels somewhat useless (unless I’m misunderstanding something).

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          The resolution is virtual. If this can attain the same pitch/ppi as your eye can see, then you can create infinite monitors around you and you can switch around by turning your head. A very different experience than physical monitors. That’s what I meant, but it’s also what Apple is selling.

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            Isn’t it just the one screen that your Mac has but scaled as big as you want? You could probably change the size to small and get more space that way, but it’s not a different monitor if I understand that correctly. And you can’t change the aspect ratio. I might be wrong, but I remember being very disappointed when finding out about this.

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              You can have only one virtual monitor that is connected to a physical Mac, but you can have an unlimited amount of native apps open around you. So instead of opening Teams in your virtual Mac display for example, there would hopefully be a native app you can open in its own space. Same for Xcode, Outlook, etc - open natively instead of through a Mac virtual connection. The headset does have an M2, after all.

              The ultimate intention of this device appears targeted to take on solo computers and laptops entirely.

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                I don’t think Xcode will run on the headset natively, definitely not anytime soon.

                For web development I usually have an IDE, git client, browser for development and browser for looking things up. The two browser windows could run on the headset (one accessing the mac via IP), but at least the git client and IDE have to run on the Mac. It would work, but ideally I’d have at least two virtual monitors. Not sure how convenient it would be to cmd+tab switch between apps/windows.

                I can ofc. do everything on one screen as well, but then what’s the point of having the headset.

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                  I would love to have multiple Mac monitors, and hopefully this limitation is overcome at some point. But I think the short term solution might be using native apps for safari, slack, teams, and whatever else has a native app available, and using the singular Mac window for the IDE.

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              Apple has to reserve these basic features so they can tout out how amazing the proer version is to buy in a few years time.

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          You are talking about different things. Using the native OS you can have infinite windows at any size, but if you are duplicating your desktop view from your Mac then you are limited to a fixed-density single screen

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            Yeah I’m only talking about the Mac monitor. You’re right ofc, all the iPad-like windows are more customizable and there can be more of them. Only for my workflow that wouldn’t help much since all the windows I’m working with have to actually come from the Mac.

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        Or just say he’s using it everyday because… You know. Head dude at Apple is using so why isn’t everyone…

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          I don’t think he’d lie about that. He wasn’t even asked about it, he said it himself without being prompted

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    As somebody who never bought into the VR hype, I’m actually pretty excited about apple vision. The portable aspect and the other qol features make me want to buy one. I feel like after a very long time Apple has entered the game late but made the game exponentially better. Let’s see how this pans out.

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      I’m in a similar boat. I tired some VR demos at the Microsoft store and it was meh… how am I really going to use this? Apple has always done a good job of presenting a new category of product in a way where you can see how it might fit into your life. They present the solutions instead of the technology. 1,000 songs in your pocket. A widescreen iPod, a iPhone, a breakthrough internet communes device.

      With Vision Pro it was like, ok, I can do my normal stuff, but maybe do them without losing touch with the world around me. And if I want to shut out the world for an amazing cinema experience I can. Is they worth the asking price… I don’t know. But I tried Google Glass back in the day and it was so disappointing. Vision Pro seems like it will have that wow factor, from everything I’ve seen/heard so far. The big question will be if it has the content to make it compelling. I follow a bunch of 3rd party dev for Apple stuff and they all seem to be playing with it. So that’s good. I do want to see the unique immersive 3D experiences, not just big flat virtual screens placed around the room, which is a lot of what they showed.

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        I mean to don’t really need your word processor to be a “3D experience”. I think a big part of Vision Pro is bringing your work environment with you. Like, you know where everything is, how to find it, etc.

        When you need to “step into your office to draw that up” you can just pull your headset down for a minute.

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    He sits, alone, watching movies? He sits alone working with floating spreadsheets? I mean, that’s about all they demoed.