I feel like there is no web browser with a sane default configuration that I can recommend to other people. All browsers are preconfigured in a way that harms the privacy of their users or include services that no one wants such as Pocket and BAT.

Here are my problems with some popular browsers.

  • Mozilla Firefox: Pocket integration, no ad-blocking without extensions.

  • Brave: Everything related to crypto. Also its start page is horrible.

  • Chromium: No ad-blocking without extensions and soon Manifest v3 will cripple all content blockers.

Now, these suboptimal defaults wouldn’t be such a big problem if the configuration files were easy to backup and restore and respected the XDG base directory specification.

    • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
      175·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, and there’s definitely some pay-offs going on with their reviews. Almost every one of them says something close to “This browser pays you just for browsing the internet!,” most of them don’t mention that it’s crypto, and none of them mention that it has nothing to do with browsing, but is instead for clicking integrated ads.

      • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
        22·
        1 year ago

        it has nothing to do with browsing, but is instead for clicking integrated ads.

        It doesn’t show you ads if you’re not browsing… 🤔

        And you don’t have to click the ads.

        • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
          22·
          1 year ago

          Brainlet response.

          Getting popup ads is a far cry from “just browsing,” and despite claims otherwise, I always noticed a fairly stark difference from month to month that seemed to coincide with whether or not I was clicking the ads. 🤔

          My favorite part of all these mad shilling comments in getting as how not a single one of them addresses the carbon copy “BRowSeR tHAT PaYS YoU!!!” reviews, they just all go “Hmm, but it says you don’t have to click, haha, you fool, you liar! You are discredited!”

          • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
            31·
            1 year ago

            Brainlet response.

            Dafuq is a “brainlet”?

            Getting popup ads is a far cry from “just browsing,”

            I don’t know what part of this you’re not getting but you have to be browsing in order to get an ad, so it has absolutely everything to do with browsing, despite your insistence to the contrary.

            that seemed to coincide with whether or not I was clicking the ads.

            Wait you actually clicked the ads?

            mad shilling comments

            God I just love these comments. As if no one can actually genuinely like a product and any correction of disinformation makes you a “shill”… such big brain energy over here.

            how not a single one of them addresses the carbon copy “BRowSeR tHAT PaYS YoU!!!” reviews.

            Because we don’t care. We don’t read reviews from randoms online. We listen to experienced privacy and security advocates, and we actually use the browsers ourselves.

            • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
              22·
              1 year ago

              You’re not a shill for “genuinely liking a product” or “correcting disinformation” (which, btw, are both obvious b.s.), you’re a shill for denying any lying about genuine issues.

              You’re a shill for your staunch refusal to accept that there’s a difference between “using a browser” and “receiving advertisements that pop up over your content or in your notification bar.”

              You’re a shill for responding to mention of the half-truths they (and people like you) propagate with the dismissive “Wait you actually clicked the ads?”

              You’re a shill because you willingly admit that you don’t care about the shady shit they do, and you clearly don’t want other people to care.

              You’re a shill for implying that anyone who would point out the shady shit they do is simply dumber or less informed than you.

              • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
                11·
                1 year ago

                Buddy you’re the only one who’s lying, telling people that “it has nothing to do with browsing” and that you have to click the ads to get BAT. Both of those are patently false and malicious statements.

      • stillwater@lemm.eeEnglish
        31·
        1 year ago

        They were definitely astroturfing for a while, especially around the time of that Firefox Megabar stuff on the Firefox subreddit. I can understand not liking the Megabar but there were so many people acting like the sky was falling and saying they were going to abandon Firefox after 15 years or so… for Brave.

        A few years later and almost none of those accounts look like real users. A bunch of them were active on Brave subreddits well before the Megabar.

        The impotent r/Firefox more missed all this of course, and let a bunch of trolls go rampant and unchecked.