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Democrats aren’t attacking Jill Stein because they think she is taking votes from Kamala Harris. No one I know who’s voting Green would consider a vote for Harris at this point. They’re attacking Jill Stein because they don’t want voters to know that there can be a worker-centered party to the left of the Democrats that supports popular policies like Medicare for All, a $25 wage and federally guaranteed housing.

There are 80+ million eligible voters who don’t vote at all because they don’t see the point. Democrats are okay with this, in fact, they don’t want any candidate to their left to appeal to those voters with popular policies.

The fact that the Green Party exists shows that the Democrats aren’t pushing the most progressive policies. Jill Stein’s candidacy shows that it’s possible to support reproductive justice AND be against funding and arming a genocide. That we can end homelessness if we stopped funding endless wars around the globe.

Democrats don’t want anyone to the left of them to exist because it’s the only way they can convince Americans that Dem policies are “the best that we can do”. To Dems, anything else is just “asking for a pony”.

Don’t fall for it. Despite Dem’s desire to have you think otherwise, things don’t have to be this way.

Another world is possible.

  • oxjox@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1816·
    16 days ago

    No. Not like Trump. Not by a long shot.

    Trump openly told Netanyahu to eradicate the Palestinians. Trump has empowered Israel over and over again. if anyone gained anything during Trump’s presidency it was Israel.

        • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          371·
          16 days ago

          Ok, sure. Here’s the second paragraph:

          Between the war’s start last October and recent days, the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs, 6,500 500-pound bombs, 3,000 Hellfire precision-guided air-to-ground missiles, 1,000 bunker-buster bombs, 2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs, and other munitions, according to the officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

          Question for you, who has been the president of the US since October 7, 2023?

          • oxjox@lemmy.mlEnglish
            215·
            16 days ago

            Joe Biden. The guy that’s been preventing this from becoming World War Three.

            • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              32·
              16 days ago

              How does enabling genocide prevent world war, exactly? Spell that one out for me, because to my knowledge the previous World War was started by a state who was doing a genocide.

              • oxjox@lemmy.mlEnglish
                215·
                16 days ago

                I’m not here to hold a college course on the fifty plus year history of the US supporting Israel and preventing global terrorism. I don’t have the time to pull up the library’s worth of data that existed prior to October 7th.

                I ask that you pretend October 7th didn’t exist and then start researching what all presidents since Carter have done for Israel and especially Donald Trump. And why.

                You can be opposed to Israel’s excessive use of force while still supporting the Biden administration’s actions. I’m not happy about all of Biden’s actions. I believe he should be standing more firm about his support but I’m not in the room during these negotiations. I don’t have access to classified CIA documents. What we do know is that Iran is an active threat to the United States and other countries and, without Israel as an ally, the world would be under grave threat of international war.

                • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  30·
                  16 days ago

                  I’m well aware of the history of Israel, thanks. Can you explain how the US’s arming Israel for the last 76 years makes it okay for them to continue doing so? It was wrong then, so why isn’t it wrong now?

                  You can be opposed to Israel’s excessive use of force while still supporting the Biden administration’s actions

                  No you cannot, because Biden (and the United States broadly, as you’ve been so keen to point out) is the one enabling their excessive use of force.

                  What we do know is that Iran is an active threat to the United States and other countries and, without Israel as an ally, the world would be under grave threat of international war.

                  One country in the region is openly murdering women and children, and it isn’t Iran.

                  You are complicit in genocide.

                • GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
                  8·
                  16 days ago

                  preventing global terrorism

                  You’re a miserable chauvinist and your college course would be crap. Israel is a rogue terrorist state that exists for the purpose of terrorizing its neighbors and therefore hindering development and destabilizing the Middle East

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZs-v0PR44

                  You can be opposed to Israel’s excessive use of force while still supporting the Biden administration’s actions.

                  Israel is a settler-colonial state, all of its forces is excessive and it as a state should not exist. Anyone supporting Biden’s actions is supporting settler-colonialism and terrorism.

                • coolusername@lemmy.ml
                  2·
                  15 days ago

                  What we do know is that Iran is an active threat to the United States and other countries and, without Israel as an ally, the world would be under grave threat of international war.

                  hahhahahahahahahaha
                  US and Israel are the ones funding terrorism globally. ISIS-K in Russia, White Helmets in Syria, ETIM in China (not anymore they lost), ISIS in African countries that “we” don’t like (Niger, Burkina Faso, and others), and unfortunately there’s a lot more examples

      • oxjox@lemmy.mlEnglish
        516·
        16 days ago

        That’s better than what Trump has done and will do. It sucks but it’s the best option for the people in the area.

    • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
      211·
      16 days ago

      Trump openly

      This is the real problem that libs have with trump. He represents and fulfills all of their ideals, but without the pompadour.