We’ve known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it’s a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.
Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they’re not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we’ve seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?
If you’ve bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you’re a damn goober in my eyes. That’s my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.
Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I’ve been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don’t understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.
I’ve received numerous reports on this post now, and I’m doing my best to leave it up. Please refrain from personally insulting people here (i.e. the post title and update). Still leaving it up for now.
The problem is the entire post is intentionally argumentative. Unpopular opinions aren’t calling other people assholes to get some rage bait.
other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.
You know you can post an unpopular opinion without being a completely unlikable cunt, right?
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That’s probably because OP is posting a popular opinion in an unpopular way.
Twist: OP owns a Tesla.
This is just his way of coping with the self-hate.
More likely OP is in fact, an absolute douche.
I don’t see how that conflicts with what I said.
It’s as if OP posted two unpopular opinions.
I struggled with this for a long time on that other site. I’m trying to do things differently here.
I had a blanket “Cool guys don’t look back at explosions” policy to posting on pretty much every other site. I decided to turn over a new leaf on the Fediverse, and try not to post anything I don’t actually want a reply to. It does tend to gentle you down a bit. Also, I noticed other people were at least giving themselves a chance to form friendships that way, so yeah, new deal.
The thing that really sucks about social media is how many people are just using you as a vent pillow to scream into. It’s amazing that so many people are using so many websites that pretty much amount to somebody else’s emotional punching bag.
Wait, how do you form a friendship on sites like this? Best I’ve had are brief friendly interactions and then I forget their username unless it’s one of the novelty accounts, in which case “interactions” feel more like celebrity appearances or like a performance than anything else.
My dude I do not even know. I have managed to be around some people who aren’t like me and gathered the strong impression that people were using social media like it was social, and not anti-social, which I am fluent in. So now I am on a brand-new policy, in the dark and stumbling around. All I can tell you is that the other people are using this thing to meet each other and exchange phone numbers eventually like actual friends. Which makes fuckin sense. If you reply back to other people like you are texting, it changes the nature of the thing. We must both be at peace with letting the thread drop, tho.
I must remind you that the normy world has been using social media to find other people to have sex with for a while, basically pull up the app, swipe swipe swipe until you find a friend for the night and put the phone away, instead of letting the demon consume the next 4 hours somehow. There’s a whole nother paradigm. It seems more entertaining.
But yeah, I think you just treat threads like chats, be cool, and see what happens eventually.
You just avoid that Reddit thing where you come in with your 1500 word truth dunk, that ain’t it.
Yeah it’s crazy to me that people can find a sexual partner on a site like Reddit (or are you just talking about tinder and apps like that?). Meanwhile I’m here avoiding even sharing my province, though I was open about being in Canada. Probably doesn’t help that my desire to be social itself waxes and wanes.
No, I do mean sites like Reddit. The advanced users are making everything act like a dating site when they need it to, because things like tinder don’t work for everyone, so it’s double crazy that they’re making Reddit work for that.
What I was truly referring to is Discord, and all those little communities in there, lots of people making their connections, not just sex, but international friend networking. Snapchat, group chats, all that, they’re busy doing the same, there. Meanwhile, I live as a ghost, interacting with dozens of people a day online, thousands over the years, with nothing much to show for it.
Even out in the real world I’m the kinda guy who can work some place for two years and leave with no new numbers in my phone. It does keep me out of the drama, but I don’t feel I’m striking a balance, either.
So yeah, I wish I knew.
Ooooh discord makes a lot of sense. It’s just the modern version of chat rooms which is where people were hooking up long before tinder was a thing and “a/s/l?” was one of the most common greetings between people just meeting for the first time.
I can easily tell the difference between a 2013 vs 2023 Toyota Camry.
I literally can’t tell the difference between a 2013 and 2023 Model S.
That’s the real problem.
No half measures. !fuckcars@lemmy.world
Fuck cars is like libertarianism. It sounds great at first until you actually really think about it
Full of people who live in big cities and/or small countries. The US is mostly very spread out and sparsely populated. Getting rid of cars just isn’t feasible.
Getting rid of cars just isn’t feasible.
Getting rid of cars is inevitable. The amount of resources it takes to maintain anywhere close to a 1:1 suburbanite:car ratio is massively unsustainable. Read that word again. Unsustainable. It doesn’t say “makes environmentalists sad”, it says “cannot be sustained”. Cars will go away, and everyone currently clinging to a car dependant lifestyle will have a bad time.
I’ve had mine for 5 years. I wanted an EV and at that time (in the US) there really was no option even remotely close with the combination of range, charging convenience and technology.
Elons downfall sometimes makes me slightly embarrassed to be associated to it in any way, but its still a great car, not perfect but great. 5 years and I’ve had to replace a set of tires, wiper blades and fluid, and 2 sets of cabin air filters. That’s it.
Its popular to hate on Elon and its rightly deserved but come the fuck on.
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Tesla pulled a hattrick by making people who couldnt give a shit about the environment want to buy an EV, and they did that by making the car pure fun.
With all the major brands announcing support for the NACS connector I will be keeping Rivian in my sites in a few years. If they can get the price right for their next generation, lower cost models they could be a compelling package.
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I was living in Los Angeles at the start of the pandemic. I was really enjoying my $0.11/Kw charging when gas was approaching $6-7/Gallon.
For most drivers, the math can make a lot of sense.
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I would have totally considered a Tesla3 for my partner if not for all the reasons listed here… Price wise they seemed like a good enough deal for a new Model3, but I couldn’t get past the Musk factor, and the quality control issues - I would not trust my life in the hands of that company.
I’m just over here sittin’ in my lil 2006 civic hybrid, eatin’ popcorn and celebrating 200k+ miles without so much as a loose screw.
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I think they could have their place, just not under wonton capitalism with no regard for the environment
I could stand for a bit more wonton capitalism. They make tasty soup!
Or did you mean “wanton”?
Lmao no I definitely meant wonton. I could also go for some…
Everyone i know who purchased these are disappointed after the honeymoon wears off and like the doors randomly open or fall off.
I’ve driven probably close to a hundred different Teslas and nearly every electric car currently on the market over my career working with cars, and I completely agree with this take even when you remove Elongated Muskrat and the semi-functional, utterly misrepresented Autopilot entirely from the equation. Sure, a Tesla (in proper working order) feels really good to drive, but practically every other electric car on the market (outliers being the Leaf and the Bolt) are working as hard as they can to capture that same experience and most are doing a really good job if not exceeding that standard. The only differences are that most other manufacturers have what I have to assume is a massively more robust design and engineering team, better quality control, and generally decades upon decades more experience in designing cars in general, and not taking advantage of that as a buyer is a pretty dumb move, especially when you start researching the myriad issues with Teslas. Sure, Tesla may have kickstarted the electric car market, but with all the current, similarly priced options on the market, buying a Tesla is purely for the status-symbol optics or because you actually buy into Elon’s BS, which is its own can of worms.
I’m a bike driver and Teslas wanna hit me left and square and I can’t hear those removed. I get it the gas cars are probably gonna go extinct within 180 years, but telsas suck on build quality and those removed are expensive to do any repairs, where is my RIGHT TO REPAIR!!!
I love my Leaf. Only 129 miles for range and can take longer than 12 hours to charge in my garage but not having bought gas for almost 5 years has been great and it’s a joy to drive an electric car. I compared the Leaf to the Tesla Model 3 at the time and could find no reasons that the Leaf wasn’t a better use of my money. Tesla electric cars seem like more of a status symbol than an environmental or economic decision in today’s EV market.
As a BMW driver, I am pleased that there is a new asshole driver car
We’ll come back to you when the discussion circles back to turn signals.
As with any classicBMW@lemmy.world, its because the signals are broken, like most of the rest of the car.
I hate Musk with a white hot intensity but I want Tesla to succeed. I think it’s important to stop burning oil, and I think the traditional car industry would drop EV production like a hot potato if the Tesla threat went away. I drive a Ford PHEV and I have a short commute so I buy gas a couple times a year. It was the better option for me, but I want people to keep buying teslas. So, they’re not tools, they’re smart, good-looking, and wonderful dancers.
Meh… Tesla has done it’s job pushing us to EVs. The big players all have an EV that’s competative to superior than what Elon is offering.
It’s a self sustaining cycle outside of Tesla now.
Yep. Tesla can eat shit.
Electric cars / Tesla aren’t doing anything to save the environment. Their only purpose is to keep the car industry going a bit longer.
How is the energy produced that goes into the vehicles? What about the workers in the “we’ll coup who we like” countries which dig up the resources to build the batteries? What about all the resources to build the things? What happens to the cars after the battery is done?
We should instead be thinking about building a better world where we don’t need to rely on cars to go to meaningless and harmful jobs. Cities should be more hostile to cars in general, and build environments which are more pedestrian / bike / remote worker friendly.
Never getting rid of personal transportation. People want to travel to see & do things that aren’t going to be served by public transport.
I don’t purchase things or make investments based on CEOs. The history of automaker CEOs is quite ugly. I also use Amazon, and Bezos is also a tremendously evil “tool.” Just because a CEO is dumb enough to be loud-stupid in ways that are accessible to the public doesn’t make them worse/better in my eyes.
Tesla as a company has great engineers, they’ve basically built a tremendous drivetrain on an incredible car frame, and they don’t care at all about the interior fit and finish. Emphasizing Elon over the engineers that put those cars together is a disservice to the hard work of the people actually doing the work.
Teslas are some of the safest cars on the road. They’re an engineers car: all the work is in the parts you can’t see. You can hate Elon all you want, but if their safety record continues to be as stellar as it has been, I’ll probably buy a Model Y in the next couple of years. Not because I love or hate Elon–he doesn’t enter into the equation when I’m thinking about the safety of my family–but because the engineers at Tesla have designed a very safe electric car.
If all you look at are the loudest articles, the most repugnant tweets, have at. I’m looking for a car that, per mile, provides safe transportation. When it comes to electric cars (or any car, really), Tesla has consistently been at the top.
Yeahhhhhhhh if everyone bought vehicles based on CEOs/owners of companies, Volkswagen would uh, be rather dead at this point. Or have a very dedicated niche.
And Ford, as well. Henry Ford was not exactly a paragon of virtue.
Sure, but at the same time they aren’t shouting from the rooftops that they’re idiots and making clowns out of themselves at the same level as Elon has been…
So it’s not shitty people you dislike, it’s shitty people that don’t hide it from you. Suboptimal view.
I didn’t say I liked them. What I meant is that they don’t have the media presence and influence that someone like Elon has. At the end of the day, like others said, you wouldn’t be buying anything if you looked at the track record of every CEO. I can still pick the lesser evil.
