USA is the edgy teen after moving out of the parents house (Europe) and finally doing stuff their own way. Not because it is practical, but because they feel rebellious.
Lol, This is probably the best explanation of America that I’ve ever heard.🤣👍🏾
Many of us are not from Europe
What year are you living in, 1951?
USA was colonized by europeans mostly, I believe ?
The Cajun were french Canadians
20% of the population in 1776 were slaves who came from Africa. There are more countries outside Europe
Not like the Europeans colonized those African countries at the time.
The Scramble for Africa happened after the USA was established as a country
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20% is a lot ! there are more countries that…? I think you forgot a word
Oh, these were definitely not the people who decided how to handle/name/format stuff, sadly…
Date Formats:
Aug 9, 20239 Aug, 20238/9/2023 US9/8/2023 GB2023/8/9Correct Date Formats:
9 AUG, Juche 112 ✅
2023-08-09
Only for files
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Best format.
%sThe Necromancers Calendar
*9 AUG, Duche 112✅️😉
Majority of the world uses YYYY-MM-DD. Day 1st makes no sense. If you need the month or year it should come 1st. You need to zoom into what you need not select from any number of months with the same day. That would be like putting time with seconds 1st.
Not really, most countries use YYYY-MM-DD to save documents, photos or archive papers.
DD-MM-YYYY is for daily usage.
09.08.2023 (dd/mm/yyyy) anybody?
I like it for reading and using the date day to day
But yyy-mm-dd is best for sorting and archiving files
People rarely use them in real life, but ISO 8601 and RFC 3339 (both are almost identical) are the most natural ways of writing date and time. Just like how we write numbers, their components are written from left to right in the decreasing order of significance: yyyy-mm-ddTHH:MM:SS. I like it by default for precisely the reason you mentioned - sorting. It even helps quick visual comparisons.
This
It’s dd/MM/yyyy you nincompoop
Why would you put the day first?
Because it changes most often.
Why does that mean it should go first?
Because you are able to read the thing that changes most often first. It is more convinient to read from left to right.
DD/MM/YYYY is the best in my opinion
YYYY-MM-DD is better if you need to sort
If it weren’t so ingrained, I would be permanently using YYYY-MM-DD instead of DD/MM/YYYY.
Works great for east Asia, and it sorts!
I’d also like to advocate for using 24 time in speech.
See you at 21 tomorrow :)
Just don’t care and use them. People understand them. Maybe they’re not used to hearing it, but it doesn’t matter. This is what I do and never cam across someone who was so dense that he didn’t understand me. I also never had someone tell me that it was strange to do so.
I agree with this because if you were to say the whole thing verbally, you generally start with the day, the month then the year.
“It is the 9th of August in the year of our Lord 2023.”
We wouldn’t in America in most cases. I’d say it’s August 9th 2023. I honestly feel like this is such a dumb argument to have because it doesn’t matter except for communication with people who use other methods. Now metric vs imperial makes way more sense to me because the metric system is just so much easier for mathematical conversions.
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.
I like how Europeans pretend they’re all scientific, but then still use seconds, minutes, and hours without thinking twice.
Lmao Europe is not the only place where they use metric (I’m not European).
Seconds are part of the metric system and are the base unit of time. Just because they didn’t define it initially doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or makes sense. They use milliseconds and kiloseconds; minutes and hours are used for convenience but are not part of the SI
In the USA most people would say “august 9th”, not “the 9th of august”, which is one of the reasons mm/dd/yyyy is the standard format here
Which extrapolated, who the fuck would say “the September of 2024” and not “September, 2024” for example
This is actually often done when trying to be more eloquent or dramatic or add importance, like how Independence day is The 4th of July versus just saying Jily 4th.
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Then use DD-MM-YYYY or any other character.
Okay but if you sort by name then the file:
08-09-2023.png
is after:
04-12-2023.png
Because everything would be sort after the day number.
Then get software that recognizes a simple format like that because that’s a nightmare.
DD?MM?YYYY
ISO 8601 or nothing. Descending order of granularity, keep everything sorted as it should be!
My personal preference is DD-MM-AAAA, but as someone that works with lots of data from different formats and timezones… I have to agree with you…
YYYYMMDD and UTC should be the global default.
annum annum annum annum
RFC 3339, because ISO is not free.
Tell me more? I can look it up but I’m curious if anybody ever got problems from using a standard like that
ISO charges for their standards
I’ve said it once and I will say it again:
mkdir -p 2023/{January,February,March,April,May,June,July,August,Septembet,October,November,December}
Warning: not POSIX
ew ew ew no please no :'(
Oh my god, why would they do this
Why no? It will make your life way easier
Aug 9, 2023
and08/09/23
literally say the same thing.They do but one informs the reader of the order of the format while the other doesn’t.
Look it’s easy, you just wait until the 13th of the month to figure out which format it is. Is 12 days really so much to ask?
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August 9th 2023 would be 09.08.2023 in Germany though 😉
Also changing it to periods doesn’t avoid confusion about the order. Also pretty sure we fought a whole war over not being like the Germans, so…
It’s quite simple really. The order is “small to big”. You start with the smallest unit, in this case the day. Then follows the next largest unit, the month, and finally the year. Basically the same as in the top picture, but in reverse order.
The first isn’t ambiguous at all; the second is hella ambiguous.
It’s only ambiguous because there’s a second standard.
Is 08/09/2023 August or September? What about 08.09.2023? Do you see where the problem lies?
08/09/23 literally says the 8th day of september.
That’s why I write 9 Aug ‘23
No, the second one says “Sept. 8th 2023” and that last panel is obviously British (you can tell by the teeth) /s
Goddamn German memes invading everywhere.
Ein Volk! Ein Reich! Ein Kommentarbereich!
Can’t believe relevant xkcd hasn’t been posted.
I was unaware of this. But it uses the same logic as the British date format so I am okay with it.
Is this where someone posts the relevant xkcd about too many standards?
That standard can go fuck itself
The correct standard is dd/mm/yyyy
Why would you have minutes inbetween there and not months?
? I do have months in the “mm”
He’s making a pedantic joke. Lower case m is sometimes used to indicate minutes.
Albeit a weak one since many formats use lowercase m to indicate month. Such as programming languages like python & PHP. IBM & Microsoft standards also use lowercase m and so forth.
I did think he might be making a joke but since as you said it would be a weak one I gave him the benifit of the doubt
Yeah it’s a bit mixed bag. Powershell command get-date expects mm for minutes and MM for months, which has messed up my scripts logging few times lol
Last two are both dumb, YYYY-MM-DD or DD-MM-YYYY or go home
Yes I’m American
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The last two are the same thing though
The last one is ambiguous because it could be either august ninth or september eigth.
Reddit ass post
I swear, a lot of you would have no joy in life if you weren’t able to bitch about the stupidest shit.
But small things are important!
Small things and stupid things are different
If you it’s the stupidest shit then you never tried to figure out why you can’t log in to VPN for 2h just to realize password expired week ago but you looked at the date and thought you still have 3 weeks till expires
09/08/2023 (I’m an American who doesn’t care what everyone in my country uses if that “custom” is nonsense…)
Im a Canadian, and unfortunetely we use both formats, with no context.
Which is why written down or typed without a format prompt I use “12 Aug 2023”
I see an brave! Inspire!
Do you use metric? :)
I use Fahrenheit just because it’s a pain to get everything set to Celsius and other Americans don’t understand it. But I use grams, kilos, millilitres, kilometres, etc. Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
Some proud neckbeard shit right here. “Fuck communicating effectively with people. They don’t even know I only use the metric system!”
But yeah, got em… I guess.
I kind of get it, it’s like language immersion. How do you easily describe anything besides the freezing point and boiling point of water in an objective way? The rest, you can point to and say “this weighs a kilo” ot “this holds a liter.” And if you don’t force people to use it, they’ll simply refuse. And we all carry handy unit conversion tools with us wherever we go these days, so if they don’t want to learn, they can easily translate it themselves.
So you use Fahrenheit because Americans don’t understand Celsius but you don’t convert to imperial for them if they don’t understand? That just seems inconsiderate as it’s really no trouble at all
Based
9AUG2023
HOLY
Unix time is the best format
Amount of seconds since midnight Jan 1st 1970 or sod off
Only until 2038-01-19
Date stamps are stupid, but they’re nowhere near as stupid as this attempt to criticize them